Yes on 8 Site Heavy on Propaganda and Hysteria, Devoid of Facts.
Sunday, September 28th, 2008
A Site that calls itself iProtectMarriage.com has everything to appeal to the bigots and people who might be leaning toward their side. Persuasive language, a video “quiz” to help you discover how wrong you are to even consider voting NO on Proposition 8, and plenty of pictures of young adults and children. Won’t somebody please think of the children? What they don’t have are facts, though they claim to. Their “facts” are opinions and propaganda masquerading as facts, which is typical of these sites. So here we go with the nonsense.
Prop. 8 isn’t out to remove rights. In America, we all have the “right” to have a relationship. But what about the legal right to marry?
* For centuries, civil marriage protected society and children by making marriage a legal institution between a man and a woman.
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The question is, why stop there? If gays have a right to get married, then how can they say a man doesn’t have the right to marry his daughter, or a minor, or three women?
Actually Proposition 8 is out to remove rights. Currently same-sex couples in California have the legal right to marry. If Proposition 8 passes they will lose that right.
For centuries marriage was “protected” by prohibiting interracial unions. Nobody other than lunatic fringe bigots currently suggests we resurrect those laws. But many still think it’s fine to deny equal marriage to same-sex couples.
Notice the standard slippery-slope argument. Allowing same-sex couples marriage equality means we must allow unions between any number of spouses, adults and their children, humans and animals, etc. They never can understand the difference between two consenting, non-related adults and what they’re describing. Then again, logic and rationality aren’t their strong suits.
Q: Isn’t banning gay marriage just like banning interracial marriage?
A: It’s completely unrelated. Blacks who endured prejudice can’t wake up in the morning and not be black. None of us can be counseled out of our race or ethnicity. But homosexual behavior is a choice, and countless gays and lesbians have left the homosexual lifestyle.
Complete and utter lie. The only people who claim and believe being gay is a choice are the homophobic bigots. The American Psychiatric Association and American Psychological Association both have stated that homosexuality is a natural and normal orientation that is unchangeable. They’ve also stated that efforts to change it, so-called “reparative therapy”, are ineffective and harmful to gay people. Nobody has ever “left the homosexual lifestyle”, whatever that is. They have only been bullied, shamed and harassed into pretending they’re not gay in order to please others.
Marriage between a man and a woman goes far beyond procreation.
While death, divorce, and other circumstances may prevent it in many cases, the best environment for raising children is traditional marriage. More than ten thousand studies document significant advantages kids experience when raised by committed and loving moms and dads.
Benefits include:
* Lower poverty rates: On average kids from never married homes spend 51% of their childhood in poverty compared to only 7% for kids in married homes
* Lower crime rate: Kids from married homes are less than half as likely to end up in jail as children of broken homes
* Lower suicide rate: Kids from married homes are six times less likely to commit suicide than those from divorced homes
* Better health: Kids from married homes are generally physically and emotionally healthier when they reach adulthood than kids from unmarried homes
None of that has anything to do with same-sex couples, but instead addresses children affected by divorce or single parenting. If the real issue is protecting the children and their futures from the horrors of homes broken by not having two parents, how about we outlaw divorce and single parenthood for heterosexual couples instead of banning same-sex marriage?
Q: Isn’t it better for a kid to have parents who are the same sex, rather than no parents, or abusive ones?
A: No one wants kids to grow up without parents. But children raised by a married mom and dad do better in school, are healthier emotionally and physically, and are less likely to commit crimes, use drugs, and have children out of wedlock. Sure there are exceptions. But exceptions should not be the rule.
Another lie. Studies have shown that children raised by same-sex couples are as happy and healthy as those raised by opposite-sex couples. What the RRRW likes to do is take studies that show children fare better when they have two parent households (as opposed to single parent households) and use that to falsely claim that they need “both a mother and a father”. Yet another way they misrepresent legitimate studies to advance their anti-gay agenda.
If Prop. 8 loses, children as young as kindergartners must be taught same-sex marriage.
Public schools are required to teach the role of marriage in society. If Prop. 8 passes, that won’t change.
If Prop. 8 does not pass, children as young as kindergartners must be taught about same-sex marriage.
My lovely wife has already addressed that particular lie.
Q: Isn’t all the latest science saying that gays are born that way?
A: If there is a scientifically proven gay gene it hasn’t been discovered. But even if there is a genetic cause of desire, that doesn’t mean society should redefine marriage because of it.
That statement, above all others, proves that their entire campaign is based upon hatred and intolerance. They don’t care one iota about truth. They only care about maintaining their alleged superiority over us.
Simply put, traditional marriage is better for us, mentally, physically and psychologically. We’re not making it up; public health statistics confirm this. That’s just another reason why Prop. 8 needs to be passed.
Take just one example: Men in traditional marriages are way better off than unmarried men.
* They live longer: Unmarried men have a 250% higher mortality rate.
* They’re happier: The latest data show that 40% of married people say they are very happy with their life in general, compared with less than 25% of single or cohabitating individuals.
* They’re richer: Married men earn more too… 10-40% more than single or cohabitating men.What this means is that fewer of your tax dollars go to pay for social programs caused by unhealthy and unwise living.
No sources are cited for these statistics, which is typical for RRRW sites. But let’s presume they’re remotely accurate for the sake of argument. What we have here is not an argument for “traditional marriage” at all. It’s an argument for marriage, period. If marriage is so beneficial to society, and apparently to men specifically, how is it that banning millions from taking part in it is a good thing? Voting NO on Proposition 8 would allow more people to experience the obvious benefits of marriage, and lead to a healthier, happier society.
Q: Heterosexuals and homosexuals both can form healthy married relationships–why shouldn’t they?
A: No one is telling gays and lesbians who they can fall in love with, and civil unions give them the same rights as marriage.
Civil Unions and Domestic Partnerships are the “Colored Only” drinking fountains of the 21st century. No matter how well crafted and intentioned they do not provide the same rights, privileges and protections that marriage does. This has been discovered in Vermont, New Jersey, California and countless other states where such unions have been implemented. Separate but Equal simply isn’t. Only marriage is equal to marriage.
Churches, synagogues, mosques and other centers of worship have beliefs, practices, and traditions they use to determine what heterosexual couples must meet prior to marriage. That isn’t bias; that’s freedom of religion.
The government doesn’t (as of yet) tell faith-based groups who they can…* baptize
* confirm
* accept for a bar mitzvah
* qualify for any other religious function.If same-sex marriage remains legal, what will happen if a church or religious institution refuses to perform a marriage ceremony for individuals that runs contrary to its belief system? If it refuses, it may be accused of discrimination and be subject to a lawsuit. That is not freedom of religion.
More hysteria. No church will ever be forced to perform a wedding for a same-sex couple, or sued because they refuse. Likewise no church has ever been forced to marry an atheist couple, a Muslim couple, a Satanist couple, etc.–or ever been sued because they refused.
Those who offer their services to the public, however, and arbitrarily refuse to serve same-sex couples, may experience problems. The Ocean Grove Pavilion is a prime example of this. The RRRW loves to cite this as an example of a “church” being sued for not marrying a gay couple, but in reality it was about a church-owned boardwalk pavilion that was rented to the public–until two lesbians wanted to rent it for their wedding. The “deeply held religious beliefs” excuse is quite flimsy when it’s only used against one particular group. But I recall a saying about consistency and small minds, and that is what we’re dealing with here after all.
Q: Isn’t this belief stuff just a cover for gay bashing?
A: Protecting marriage between one man and one woman isn’t being against gays and lesbians. Instead, it’s in favor of safe and happy children, a healthy society, and the freedom to express your religious beliefs.
Once again, children are just as safe and happy with same-sex parents as they are with opposite-sex parents. Homosexuality is a natural part of life and not a scourge on society. And you can express your “religious beliefs” all you want, but that doesn’t mean you can use them to keep others from having equal rights. The Civil Rights Act hasn’t prevented groups like the KKK from expressing their beliefs, and voting no on Proposition 8 wouldn’t do a thing to stop homophobes from expressing their “deeply held religious beliefs”. It would only provide equal marriage rights to same-sex couples. So ultimately their entire argument is all a cover for gay bashing.
Okay, listen to this and don’t let your eyes glaze over. The legal and civil definition of marriage as between a man and a woman has gone unchallenged for centuries, providing a foundation for the growth of Western civilization. That means your way of life.
If we allow any other sexual relationship to have the same social and financial status as marriage - be it man-man, woman-woman, man-daughter, etc. we will degrade marriage, get less of it and further weaken society and civilization.
My, they love revisionist history and slippery slopes.
Marriage has not always been defined as between a man and a woman. Over the course of history and around the world same-sex marriages have been recognized, as have polygamous unions. We also can’t forget the Biblical concept of marriage with one or more wives and multiple concubines.
Marriage has evolved continuously over the course of history. Why do some people think that it should stop doing so on their say-so?
Q: How does gays getting married affect others? Live and let live!
A: Rejecting the traditional definition of marriage (as between a man and woman) means it’s open to whatever anyone thinks it is, and that includes extreme stuff like polygamy, man-boy love, and multiple partners. Where does it end?
Will they ever reach the bottom of this slope? BTW, people predicted allowing interracial marriage would spell doom. In fact, the arguments against interracial marriage were eerily similar to those currently used against same-sex marriage. Makes you think, eh?
So that’s what the pro-8 people have to offer. Propaganda, hysteria, hand-wringing and lies. Really, they should just come right out and say, “We hate gay people and want to keep them permanent second-class citizens”. It would be easier and faster than the convoluted mess they’ve presented at iProtectMarriage.com . But then honesty has never been one of the virtues of the RRRW.
The pretzel-brained bigots over at One News Now always manage to make me want to bang my head against the wall in utter frustration. They’ve done it yet again with 







