The Gaytheist Agenda

This also goes for all of those who voted in any form of anti-gay legislation. Believe it or not there are more than six verses in the Bible. It’s actually a rather large book. I thought I’d expand your minds a bit. Here are some of the verses you may have never read and, at least from what I’ve observed, certainly do not live by.

Matthew 7:1
Do not judge so that you will not be judged.

Matthew 7:9-12
“In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Matthew 25:40
The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’

James 2:4
Have you not made distinctions among yourselves, and become judges with evil motives?

Romans 13:10
Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.

Romans 2:1-2
1 Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.

1 Thessalonians 4:11
And to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life and attend to your own business and work with your hands, just as we commanded you.

 
Now see if you can actually use the Bible to guide your own lives instead of as a weapon against others.

It can be done, you know. I did it for 20 years.

 

Protesters, ACLU ruin our reputation (so says Robert Strong)

I am getting tired of hearing about and seeing all of these protests about the passing of Proposition 8. We are a government “Of the People, For the People, and By the People.” Supporters of Proposition 8 used the system the way it was meant to be used. So, if it angers anyone that it passed, why waste energy with protests? Aren’t they capable of getting a measure on a ballot? Or do they not attempt another ballot measure because they fear the outcome? Are they taking a shortcut by yelling in the streets and acting like idiots?

To begin with, that ballot measure should never have happened. Human rights are not something to be put to a popular vote. Anybody who disagrees should be the first to put their rights to “the will of the people”. Next, Mr. Strong would you consider these people to be “acting like idiots”?

Furthermore, they are yelling at the Mormon Church, for crying out loud. I have seen posters from protesters stating “Separation of Church and State.” How can they ask for separation of church and state when they are demanding to be addressed as a “married” couple, knowing the term “marriage” comes from religion? I’m not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but I at least know that it is not the root of the issue.

Marriage does not come from religion. Religion (Christianity in particular) likes to claim it owns marriage, but it doesn’t. Marriage has existed around the world in every culture both within and without religion. It has been between a man and a woman, a man and multiple women, a woman and multiple men and even people of the same gender (yes, same-sex marriage has existed historically). The “one-man, one-woman” marriage hasn’t existed since time immemorial as much as some would like to have us think.

Marriage is a civil contract. Brigham Young himself said that. Millions of people get married every year without a single tie to a religious group, without the aid of a clergy person, without reference to any deity(s). People need to face the fact that not everybody gets married in a church, nor do they need or want to. Likewise the approval of a church is not required for people to get married, though many churches think they have the right to determine who can get married.

Likewise, I am getting mad at groups such as the ACLU for supporting an effort to overturn Proposition 8. The ACLU’s very name — American Civil Liberties Union — implies that it stands for civil liberties for all Americans, right? Apparently not, if it supports the overturning of Proposition 8. A majority of voters exercised their civil liberties by passing the measure. To step in and violate voters’ civil rights for a second time only invites people like me to further exercise my civil liberties and file a class-action lawsuit against them for violating my rights as a voter.

Knock yourself out, Robert. I’m sure they’ll be laughing along with me. If you consider eradicating the constitutionally guaranteed civil rights of others one of your civil liberties you have serious issues. But go ahead and file that class-action lawsuit.

The ACLU got away with this a few years ago with Proposition 187. How it has managed thus far without going bankrupt from being sued for violating civil rights and liberties is beyond me.

Ah, so you’re a racist as well as a gaycist. I’ve noticed they tend to go together. Now I know. You would have said MLK and those who marched with him were “acting like idiots”.

Grow up, Robert. Your fantasy world where only straight white Christians exist is just that; a fantasy world.

 

 
Now from Locals Protest California’s Prop 8 one particular sentence stands out:

Church groups supporting Proposition 8 say they voted to ban gay marriage in California, but did not target any group.

Let’s see. Proposition 8 read:

ELIMINATES RIGHT OF SAME–SEX COUPLES TO MARRY. INITIATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
* Changes the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California.
* Provides that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.

Please explain to me how that is not targeted at any one group. Of course my brain is not a pretzel so I can’t figure it out, but perhaps one of the pretzel-brains can explain to me how ELIMINATES RIGHT OF SAME–SEX COUPLES TO MARRY doesn’t target one group.

 

 
Now a message to those who are telling us to stop protesting, end the boycotts and be nice little fags…

No. H*ll no. We’re not your sheep whom you can direct like Stepford-wives. We are not going to do whatever you say just because you tell us to. (Yes, I know that scares the stuffing out of you but deal with it.) You will no longer shame us into submission by wagging your fingers and saying we’re naughty. You’ve gone too far and we’re not going to take it any more.

 

Of course though there’s evidence abound they’re denying it left and right, and crying persecution because we have the audacity to call them on it. But just look at this lovely “thank you” they received from a RW blogger.

Proposition 8 would not have passed if it had not been for LDS (Mormon) money and manpower. For their hard work as participants in the process, this small religious group received some of the worst attacks of the political season. They were demonized and stereotyped by opponents of Proposition 8 and sometimes by the mainstream media.
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People who spearhead a campaign to eradicate the constitutionally guaranteed rights of others–especially those who aren’t even in their own state–should have the personal fortitude to stand up to the responses they get (outside of violence, which I do not in any way advocate or condone). Or to put it another way, Ye reap as ye sow.

That aside, did you catch that first sentence? Here it is again in case you missed it.

Proposition 8 would not have passed if it had not been for LDS (Mormon) money and manpower.

That’s right. Without the Mormons and their targeted, multimillion dollar anti-gay campaign of propaganda we’d still have our marriage rights. They might as well have invaded our homes, ransacked them and torn up our marriage licenses. It would have been more honest than what they actually did.

Needless to say I don’t want to hear any more claims that the Mormons didn’t do anything and that The Gays are unfairly targeting them. The Mormons are getting open backslaps from the RW for spearheading the effort to eradicate our rights. Their protests that they didn’t do it ring very, very hollow in the face of that.

 

This deserves a second posting.

 

Proposition 8 passed by a small margin on November 4th. Since then LGBT people and many supporters have been understandably angry. We’ve been protesting and boycotting those who contributed to the eradication of the constitutionally guaranteed right of same-sex couples to marry here in California.

Not surprisingly the bigots are crying persecution. The nasty gays are targeting us they cry. Funny how they don’t seem to think they were targeting us when they were engaging in a multimillion dollar campaign to eradicate our rights.

Those hateful gays are trying to ruin our businesses! They’re engaging in extortion! Really? Why don’t the RRRWers consider it “trying to ruin businesses” or “extortion” when they boycott businesses like McDonalds, Ford and Volvo because they dare to provide benefits to LGBT people or (gasp) advertise to us?

She does not have the right to do what wants with her earned money? (said of a business owner who donated to Yes on 8 and is now being boycotted). Of course she does, but so do we. And we have every right to not give our money to people who are going to turn around and use it against us. People who are going to use it to eradicate our rights. Let business owners who engage in bigotry get their money from other bigots.

Others claim we have no right to protest. We should be good fags, sit down, shut up and listen to the mob that has spoken. One man said, Let’s move on. I always told my children that once a rule was made, you have to abide by it. I think it should be the same in this circumstance. I’m guessing he’d never been on the losing end of a proposition that eradicated a significant fundamental human right.

And of course we’re being hateful anti-religious bigots by speaking out against the religious groups that spearheaded the campaign to strip us of our rights. They didn’t do this out of hatred, mind you, they did it out of love (so they tell us over and over like trained robots). I wonder how convincing they’d find it if I banned their religion–not out of hate mind you, but strictly because I loved them and wanted to do what was best for them. Oh, and the children. Somebody must think of the children.

Nonetheless, by protesting what is a distinctly unfair and cruel situation we are merely engaging in our First Amendment right to Free Speech and Assembly. That’s one thing we haven’t been stripped of by the bigots–yet. No doubt that will be on the next ballot.

Until then, we boycott and protest. If bigots want to spend money to eradicate our rights they need to get it from people other than those they’re trying to harm. And they’re going to have to listen to us while they’re doing it.

 

NO MORE MR NICE GAY

 

It appears some of our godly, peace loving, sweet, Mormon friends are planning violence toward people who attend the various Join the Impact events. It wasn’t good enough for them to eradicate our constitutionally guaranteed right to marry, they want to harm us for engaging in our 1st Amendment right to speak freely and to assemble.

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Bring on the persecution…lock and load, baby! My years supply of Ammo is ready…!

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BTW, don’t bother trying to “dissapear” that post guys. I have a screen capture.

For my LGBT friends and supporters. Be prepared. Not all Mormons have ill intentions, of course, but we have no way of easily discerning which ones do.

 

They keep claiming that the Mormon church wasn’t officially involved in the Yes on 8 campaign. Oh, no, the church had nothing to do with the systematic effort to eradicate our legal, constitutionally guaranteed right to marry.

Bull.

VOTE IT UP!

Let’s see them try to lie their way out of this one.

 

Hat tip Ebon.

Text of Olbermann’s statement can be found here.

 

Hat tip Good As You.

Sign the petition to ban heterosexual divorce. Do it for the children.

 

I’m a bit too tired to go into a detailed analysis of the event but you can watch the News 7 video (Number 2 of 2) for their take on it. I’m holding the sign that says We The People : Gays Need Not Apply on one side and Official Second Class Citizen on the other. My wife is holding the sign stating We Will Not Submit to a Mormon Divorce. If a copy gets posted on YouTube I’ll add it here.