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Distribution Rights Sold for “8: The Mormon Proposition”.

Wednesday, February 10th, 2010

This is good news indeed.

SALT LAKE CITY—A film distribution company has bought the rights to a documentary about the Mormon church’s role in a California ballot initiative to ban gay marriage.

Filmmaker Reed Cowan says “8: The Mormon Proposition” will hit theaters this spring and a DVD will follow. Cowan says he sold the film’s North American distribution rights to the newly formed Red Flag Releasing.
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It’s rare that we feel a movie important enough that we’ll shell out the exorbitant fees theaters are now charging for tickets–it’s been more than a year since we’ve gone–but we will be there when this movie is in our area. Of course we’ll also get the DVD when it comes out.

“I think it’s a very important issue to us, not only gay marriage, but the issue of separation of church and state,” said Federbush. “We saw it at Sundance and felt it connected with the audience.”
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“I’m pretty excited,” said Cowan, a former Mormon who is gay. “Now the film does truly go on to be seen all over the United States and people can decide for themselves.”

I’m excited too. This is a movie that needs as much exposure as possible.

 

Mormons. As We’ve Been Saying They Were Up to Their Collective Necks in Prop 8.

Monday, February 1st, 2010

Religion Dispatches brings us this excellent piece which shows more people are realizing just how much the Mormons put into the travesty of justice known as Proposition 8.

On Wednesday, January 20, in a federal courthouse in San Francisco, plaintiffs in the Perry vs. Schwarzenegger trial challenging the legality of California’s Proposition 8 introduced two documents (over strenuous objections from the defense) indicating close but cautious coordination between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Yes on 8 campaign.

The documents, according to plaintiffs’ witness Gary Segura, a professor of political science at Stanford University, indicated a desire on the part of the Church to create “plausible deniability or respectable distance between the church organization per se and the actual campaign.
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Of course they wanted to create “plausible deniability”. They couldn’t maintain the facade they keep promoting that Mormons are benign and loving toward everyone if they were the major players in a campaign to eradicate rights from a minority group, could they? But that’s where their passive-aggressive nature comes in. They love gays. They really, really love them. They love them so much they want to attach electrodes to their groins (if they’re Mormon gays), beat them for kissing in public, or eradicate their rights via a campaign of hateful lies.

Documents compiled by Mormon supporters of same-sex marriage—including campaign time lines and donor profiles—show that LDS Church ecclesiastical structures, resources, and relationships were fully mobilized to generate the majority of volunteers and donations for the Yes on 8 campaign, even as Church members were coached to handle their Mormonism carefully in campaign contributions and activities.

There was nothing plausibly deniable about the Church’s relationship to the Proposition 8 campaign when, in Sunday meetings on June 29, 2008, a letter from Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints President Thomas Monson was read over the pulpit of every Mormon congregation in California urging Church members to “do all you can” to support the ballot measure.
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Speaking of letters, lets not forget the blackmail attempt signed by Mormon Mark Janssen and others.

“Make a donation of a like amount to ProtectMarriage.com which will help us correct this error. Were you to elect not to donate comparably, it would be a clear indication that you are in opposition to traditional marriage. … The names of any companies and organizations that choose not to donate in like manner to ProtectMarriage.com but have given to Equality California will be published.”

Nice folks working on the “pro-family” side. They probably all get a set of brass knuckles when they sign up.

The Church-coordinated fundraising drive intensified in late August, when select LDS Church members identified as potential large donors were invited to participate in conference calls with members of the Quorum of the Seventy, a high-ranking Church leadership body. (Mormon Yes on 8 campaign observers believe that tithing records were used to identify call participants.) On the conference calls, high-ranking church leaders encouraged potential large donors to individually contribute $25,000 to protectmarriage.com.
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And they donated like the good little worker bees they’re trained to be. Take Stephen Samuelian, who donated $100,000, for instance, or Charles and Gloria Pope ($60,000 between them–and their own daughter is a lesbian). Of course they’re only a few of the thousands of Mormons in Base8. (The estimates that about 75% of the donations to Yes on 8 came from Mormons are pretty much dead on from what we’ve discovered. If you don’t believe us, see for yourself.)

That’s when Nadine Hansen, a Mormon veteran of the campaign for the Equal Rights Amendment, initiated an effort to document the extent of Mormon funding for the Yes on 8 campaign. During the ERA campaign, Mormon feminist Sonia Johnson had shared with Hansen fundraising disclosure sheets from an anti-ERA group that had raised money in California. Using church directories, Hansen was then able to identify “all but one or two” of the ERA donors as Mormon. Sensing that the Church was pressing ERA-era strategies into service once again, she prepared to undertake the same donor-identification project for Proposition 8 at the Web site mormonsfor8.com.
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The Mormon church is very good at mobilizing its minions, and their methods work. Don’t ever fall for their cries of persecution when called on it, or pretense that they did nothing.

Mormon volunteers were coached to avoid disclosing their ties to the LDS Church. “When we went to our training meetings, they said, don’t bring up the fact that you’re Mormon. Don’t wear white shirts and ties; don’t look like missionaries. When you go out [canvassing], bring a non-member friend. When you’re calling people, don’t say I’m a Mormon,” says Laura Compton.
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More Lying for the Lord. Strange how those who claim to be on the side of righteousness and truth feel the need to engage in so much subterfuge to achieve their desired results.

On October 8, LDS Church members in California attended a special meeting broadcast from Salt Lake City by satellite to wards and stakes throughout California and to BYU students with California ties. Encouraging Church members to think of the satellite broadcast as though they were “sitting in [a] living room having a confidential talk,” high-ranking LDS Church officials, members of the Quorum of the Twelve and the Quorum of the Seventy, introduced Church members to the final voter persuasion and get-out-the-vote “phases” of the campaign, asking members to use social networking technology to “go viral” with their support for Proposition 8 and commit four hours each week to the ground and phone campaign.

A primary source of Mormon messaging during the Proposition 8 campaign was the anonymously-authored “Six Consequences if Prop 8 Fails” document, which went viral across Mormon social networks after its introduction by email in mid-August and was utilized as a training document and handout in the Mormon-coordinated ground campaign. The document alleged that the legalization of same-sex marriage would eventuate in the teaching of same-sex marriage in public schools and the elimination of religious freedoms. Mormon legal scholar Morris Thurston described this as “untrue” and “misleading” and urged the LDS Church to discontinue its further dissemination.

As it turns out, the “Six Consequences” propaganda piece was indeed concocted by a Mormon. Big surprise. Not.

Highly centralized and hierarchical LDS institutional structures, widespread experience with door-to-door proselytizing, disciplined messaging among former missionaries, and extensive social networks that facilitated viral messaging, combined with a religious and cultural tradition that assigns enormous value to obedience to church authorities, service, discipline, and sacrifice to create a potent political force that was no secret to those within the culture.

It’s no secret to many of us outside the “culture” now, anymore, thanks to Prop 8. All the green jello and funeral potatoes in the world won’t ameliorate the harm Mormons have done to LGBT families.

“They did not want to be outed,” Hansen relates. “And yet they were with ones with all the organizational skills. And whether its because [the Church] is concerned about tax-exempt status or they want to avoid bad publicity… they want to do it and not have anyone know they do it at the same time.”
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If they wanted to harm others in anonymity perhaps they should have donned white hoods. As it stands they can deny and play the victim all they want, but LDSinc is now inextricably linked with Prop 8, and with hatred.

 

Debunking the “Gay = Pedophile” Myth.

Friday, January 29th, 2010

Robtish has produced another excellent video. This one demolishes the “tons more gays are pedophiles” lie perpetrated by William Tam, Porno-Pete LaBarbera, and others like them.



 

Prop 8 Trial Day 11.

Tuesday, January 26th, 2010

I’m not up to a full post on the matter, though I’d love to dissect Blankenhorn’s testimony when I’m feeling better. In the meantime I’ll gladly direct you to the wonderful resources at Firedoglake and the Courage Campaign’s Prop 8 Trial Tracker.

FDL Liveblogging Perry v Schwarzenegger – Day 11, Part 1

FDL Liveblogging Perry v Schwarzenegger – Day 11, Part 2

FDL Liveblogging Perry v Schwarzenegger – Day 11, Part 3

TT Liveblogging Day 11 Part 1

TT Liveblogging Day 11 Part 2

TT Liveblogging Day 11 Part 3

TT Liveblogging Day 11 Part 4

TT Liveblogging Day 11 Part 5

TT Liveblogging Day 11 Part 6

Two quick notes–Boies got Blankenhorn to admit that legal SSM would have a positive impact on the lives of same-sex couples and their children, and that “we would be more American” if SSM were legal.

 

Base8 (Searchable Prop8 Donor Database): Computers and Internet Section Now Up!

Monday, January 25th, 2010

We don’t buy from bigots and you don’t have to either. Find out why my wife, when she recently needed a new computer, went out of her way to avoid one with an Nvidia graphics chip. The good news about Mozilla Firefox is that their excellent Web browser is free. The bad news is they’ll never get a penny from us for anything. We’ll also never get another computer with a hard drive from Seagate Technology. Only part of the reason is the $60K given by the Mormon CFO and his wife, who have a lesbian daughter and grandchild they refuse to recognize.

Find that and more in the Computers and Internet section of Base8, the searchable Prop 8 donor database!

 

Base8: New Sections Available!

Saturday, January 23rd, 2010

Two new sections are up in Base8, the searchable Proposition 8 donor database.

Are you searching for a new or used car? Do you require service for your car ? Are you seeking parts so you can fix it yourself? Do you want to do any of the above without giving your money to anti-gay bigots? The Automotive section is the place to look.

The Food & Beverages section is indispensable. Considering the fact that people eat and drink every day, we have ongoing opportunities to avoid funding our own oppression.

Looking for your favorite brand of soft drink, cookies, cheese, meat products, frozen food…?

You’ll find brand names (Coke, Frito-Lay, Hormel, Jelly Belly, etc.) under:
Food & Beverage Processing/Mfg/Wholesale Distribution

For food growers (where you’ll also find many instantly-recognizable brand names), see:
Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing and Hunting

For supermarkets, bakeries, convenience stores, and anywhere else you can buy food or drinks to take home, see:
Food & Beverage Retail Stores & Outlets

For bakeries, also check:
Event Planners

Restaurants (including fast-food joints), coffee houses, and bars/pubs are in:
Eating & Drinking Places

Another section is coming soon!

 

Prop 8 Trial Day 9: Part 2.

Friday, January 22nd, 2010

Still more discussion about how sexual orientation is defined, how people determine which box they belong in, how many people of each gender one has to bed before they can state what orientation they are (because it’s all about Teh Sex, you know) etc.

So when do we dissect heterosexuality and put straight people under a microscope, making them defend their every thought and action? When will they be forced to beg all of society to allow them to keep the rights they take for granted?

 

Prop 8 Trial Day 9.

Thursday, January 21st, 2010

The last plaintiff’s witness testified. Gregory M. Herek, Professor of Psychology at UC Davis. Boies examined:

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H: This is about relationships and attachments.
D: Why are these issues important?
H: the need for attachment and intimacy are part of the core of what’s important to humans.
D: Is homosexuality an illness?
H: No
D: Inability to contribute to society?
H: no relationship to sexual orientation and ability to be a contributing member of society.
D: What about in the past?

H: In 1952, APA created the DSM. Homosexuality was included. Over time, that inclusion was disputed and there were many challenges to it. In 1973, the APA removed homosexuality from the DSM, supported by the (other) APA.
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Walker: What led to that change?
H: that’s along story
Walker: Well we have some time

H: It’s important to look at how homosexuality got into the DSM in the first place. It was based onassumptions in the 1940s and 1950s, not empirical research. Later, actual research showed that homosexuals were not suffering from a disorder. Also, other institutions (include psych and psychia) wer understanding homosexuality was not a disorder. This was based on actual research.

Walker: So at first it wasn’t based on research (1952) and then in 1973 it was based on empirical data.

H: Yes, but also the culture had changed. Empirical studies failed to support homosexuality as a mental association. But also, the culture had come to see it as a non-disorder.

Walker: Thank you

D: Do people choose their sexual orientation?
H: my research shows that people when asked say they have experienced no choice or very little choice

D: Are you familiar with reparative therapy or sexual change therapy?
H: Yes, they are types of therapies that try to change people’s sexual orientation
D: Are those therapies effective
H: Let me define effective first: that it achieves it goals and does not harm the person undergouing therapy. And by that definiation, NO it does not show effectiveness.

D: Does the APA have a position?
H: Yes they’ve been around a long time, APA has studied them a lot. Task force was asked to evaluate the current status of these therapires, their effectiveness and safety. Produced a report in 2009: very thorough review of the studies available (there weren’t many worth reviewing) but those that do exist showed that these therapeis are of very limited effectiveness and can do some harm.

D: PX888, what is?
H: Report of the task force, on appropriate therapeutic responses to sexual orientation.

D: Turn to page in Exhibit888?
H: APA concludes that there is insufficient evidence that these therapies are effective

D: Are there specific concerns about these therapies when used around adolescents?
H: Adolescents are just developing their sexuality, and vulnerable in that they are not in complete control of their lives. And, the APA was concerned that the adolescents might not be able to provide true and informed consent; that they were coerced. Also, there is an underlying sense that these therapies view homosexuality as something that is wrong, that needs fixing, and this is especially harmful to adolescents
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D: Same sex couples in CA can be domestic partners?
H: Yes
D: with almost all the rights and privileges of marriage?
H: Yes
D: So it’s just a word difference?
H: Well no it’s a lot more than a word. People in the US are willing to give G&L people all the beneifts and rights and responsibilities of marriage under the word domestic partners. But they won’d give marriage to G&L. So clearly they see something is different about getting married. Just the fact that we are here today shows there is agreat deal of society conflict over whether G&L should be ale to marry.
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D: Are you awaare of any studies of the effect of getting married on same sex couples?
H: MAss Public Health Dept asked a number of questions of Mass married couples (samesex). They concluded that most couples (>70%) said their commitment to their relationship had improved.
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D: What is ’structural stigma’
H: Well, stigma can be expressed by individuals thru violence or prejudice, but society can express stigma as well. Through the law.
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D: How does structural stigma support that?
H: Structural stigma gives permission for individuals to express their prejudice.
D: Does this extend to relationships as well as individuals?
H: Oh yes, researchers use photographs to convey the idea of homosexuality. They get stronger negative reaction to same sex couples photos that opposite.
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Nielsen then cross-examined and tried to start a big row over the definition of “gay” based on book excerpts. Perhaps to he wanted to pave the way for a claim that if we can’t put into little discrete boxes who is gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc. then there’s no need for LGBT people to have legally protected rights. (Yeah, never heard that one before.)

Afterward a very long academic discussion about sexual orientation ensued between Judge Walker, Professor Herek, Detmer and Nielsen.

All for now as I have an appointment this afternoon. More later, and hopefully it will be more interesting…

 

Prop 8 Day 8 Extra: Tam - “All White Folk Sound Alike”

Thursday, January 21st, 2010

FDL had one final installment in today’s Prop 8 trial testimony after my previous post. With William Tam, the hits keep on coming.

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B: You told Moss on cross that you only met with people from Schubert Flynt a few times, do you remember that?
T: No

B: You said “rare, only a few times”
T: YEs, I said that

B: BUt these weekly meetings were run by the SFlynt folks, right?
T: I did not know who ran them

B: You participated every week
T: NOt every week, but six or seven

B: But SFLynt was on these meetings?
T: FRANKLY I DON’T KNOW WHO WAS ON, THEY ALL SOUND ALIKE, ENGLISH IS NOT MY MOTHER TONGUE
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All those white folk sound alike, m’kay? Why would I care who I was talking to so long as they helped me crush Teh Homosexual Agenda? I just took orders and didn’t ask questions like any good anti-gay.

Boies: Look at 2185, please Dr Tam? TFC News Bulletin, correct?
T: YEs
B: This follows the passage of Prop 8?
T: YEs
B: “TFC was allied with PM.com” Do you see that?
T: Could you point to where I could see that?
B: Look at the box on the side?
T: YEs
B: Where is says “allied with Protect Marriage.com”
T: Yes

Boies: PX2187, wrt you assertion that you were not closely working with PM.com, October 2008 is the campaign phase, yes?
T: Yes
B: and this flyer was cosponsored by PM.com and TFC, your group?
T: YEs
B: Did PM.com reimburse you for tv, radio, and print ads?
T: They reimbursed not me, the people, the organization that placed the ads.

B: I;m sorry say agian please
T: They reimbursed some people who ran tv ads and print ads.

B: Did they reimburse Traditional Families COaliition?
T: No, these were Chinese people who wanted to place ads in favor of Prop 8, but they didn’t know how to do it, so , yeah….

B: Look at 2627 (?) Email you got from Mr Pugno, 10/27/08. This is addressed to TFC, right?
T: Yes
B: It says, at the top, “Bill & Peter” and the Bill is you, right?
T: Yes
B And it says “Your organizations are spending $50,000 for print and media ads….” And this means your organization and Peter’s?
T: No, just Peter, I introduced Peter to Andy because I didn’t want to be involved.

B: But it says “your organizations.” Was that wrong?
T: YEah
B: Did you correct that? Did you send back an email?
T: Once again –
B: I’m just asking, did you?
T: I never knew that as a Chinese person I would be facing a lawyer asking me all of these qustions.
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Insinuating that he’s been targeted because he’s Chinese, or a claim that Chinese people should be exempt from questioning by lawyers?

B: INCIDENTALLY…. You worked closely with Peter, did you not?
T: Only in organizing the rally, but he runs a lot of the show.
B: What show?
T: The rally, the flyer, the publicity….
B: But you and he were both the press contact.
T: That’s true.
B: And your organization sponsored the rally?
T: Yes
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B: You are aware ofAmerican history when Asian Americans could not marry the person they loved?
T: Yes
B: And you would feel very aggrieved by such laws
T: Yes
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Zing!

 

Prop 8 Trial: Day 8.

Thursday, January 21st, 2010

Thompson continued to cross-examine Gary Segura. Lots of celebrities and even some churches spoke out against Prop 8. CA is overrun with gay people. BTW, Teh Gays allegedly committed acts of vandalism against Prop 8 supporters so it’s only natural people would hate on you and vote “yes” as a result.

Thompson continued his interminable cross-examination of Segura. The nasty gays have engaged in boycotts, boycotts I say! Where will the horrors end! More unsubstantiated handwringing from the Heritage Foundation (I thought courtrooms were for facts, not RRRW propaganda). Next up; Teh Gays and Teh Jews run the world though they are tiny minorities, but reported hate-crimes against Jews still outnumber those against Teh Gays so STFU, homos.

And now, the testimony we’ve all been waiting for…..William Tam. I can see why this guy didn’t want to testify, and it had nothing to do with alleged threats or fears for his personal safety.

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B: Good afternoon, Dr Tam my name is David Boies. You were an official proponent of Prop 8?

T: Tam
B You were invited to be an official proponent by Protect Marriage.com?

T; Yes

Mr Prentice, Mr Schubert, Mr Pugno asked you join the campaign?

T: yes
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B: did you dedicate the majority of your working hours for prop 8?
T: Yes
B: Organized several rallies?
T: Yes
B: With protectmarriage.com?
T: No, not originated by PM.com
B: My question was, did you work with PM.com on the rallies?
T: No, those rallies were mainly Asian Americans, I invited Ron PRentice to be present and speak
B: You invited Prentice to speak at your rally
T:YEs
B: And so you working with Protect marriage, he is the Exec Director?
T: Yes
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B: You were told to participate in this debate by Protect Marriage.com?
T: Yes I was
B: Campaign began in 2007?
T: Yes
B: You were awaiting instructions in 10.07 when to start collecting signatures, from PM.com?
T: Yes I was
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B: I want you to ID which orgs you know were part of the coalition working with PM.com supporting Prop 8
T: Focus on Family, FRC, Values Advocacy Council, California Family Counil, Trad Family Coalition. Those I recognize

B: Whatis your relationship to the Traditional Family Coaltion?
T: I am the executive director
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B: You sent this?
T: Yes
B: Towhom?
T: It says Dear Friend of TRC, to members of Traditional Family Coalition. Dated 10.22.07
B: It says here: I am still waiting for ProtectMarriage.com to tell us when to start collecting signature.
T: yes it does
B: DId you also solicit donations to ProtectMarriage.com?
T: Yes
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B: Email you sent on 2.14.2008? This email refers to the interview or debate you had that was broadcast on Channel 26. You write about the opportunity to publicize “our marriage amendment on television.?
T: Yes
B: This debate was broadcast over channel 26?
T: Was an interview, not a debate?
B: Is this separate from the debate you referred to?
T: Yes, separate
B: So you had a debate AND an interview you promoted Prop 8 on Channel 26?
T: Yes
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B: Second paragraph: This year, TFC (that’s you, correct?) is playing a major role in getting one-man-one-woman marriage in California.
T: Yes
B: You go on to say that you worked closely with PM.com to collect signatures for Prop 8?
T: well this is Prop 8 signature phase,so I was playing a major role, a sent out petitions, worked closely with all the mechanics, working with ProtectMarriage.com, these are all true.
B: You mean working closely with PM.com?
T: Yes, that’ s what I mean.
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B: 2538 now, please, Dr Tam

This is an email from you to supporters.
T: This is very important for Asian families, we don’t want our children growing up to fantasize should I marry Jane or John?

B: Did you believe it was necessary to educate people about the history of traditional marriage?
T: Yes
B: To prohibit gays and lesbians from marrying?
T: I did not think of it that way
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B: Websit onemanonewoman.net
OBJECTION: No foundation
Walker: Can you lay a foundation?
B: Dr Tam, before we get to that exhibit, what is your connection to this website?
T: My connection?
B: Yes
T: It is the website of an America return to prayer movement.
B: Your relationship to this group?
T: I am the secretary
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B: What have you ever asked them to put on or take off the website that they would not do?
T: Something about bestiality, I objected to it.
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B: First line: Sources say that homosexuality was linked to pedophilia
T: YEs it says that
B: Do you believe that?
T: Yes
B: That homosexuality is linked to pedolphilia?
T: YEs, I believe it is

B: It says here homosexuals are 12 times more like to molest children. DO you agree that this is appropriate for your organization to put on its webstie?
T: Yes, becauser this information is — from what we see here, those are not the statements of the organization, those are just links to other websites. My position is, if there’s something like this, people want to read about, then the organization has a right to link to it.
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B: But you believe that homosexuals are 12 times more likely to molest children?
T: Yes, it says it here
B: Where did you read it, in a journal or a book
T: Could be something I read
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B: (pauses to collect himself) Turn to PX513. This is something that you wrote during the campaign for Prop 8, correct?
T: Yes
B: The heading is WHAT IF WE LOSE. correct?
T: Yes
B: Meaning what if prop 8 doesn’t pass?
T: Yes

B: You write, “They will lose no time pushing the gay agenda”
T: Yes
B: You write: “The SF Govt under rule of homosexuals.
T: Yes
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B: Well let’s see what else you wrote. You wrote that “they will want to legalize prostitution next” Do youbeleive that?
T: Proposition K on the SF ballot, I say many homosexual politicians supporting that.

B: But it didn’t have anything to do with Prop 8. You knew Prop 8 and Prop K were unrelated, right?
T: Yes
B: But you wrote that they were connected?
T: Yes
B: Then you wrote that next on “their agenda was legalizing sex with children.’ That’s what you wrote to get people to vote for Prop 8.
T: Yes I wrote that
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B: You go on to say that one byt one if Prop 8 fails, other states will fall into satan’s hands.
T: Yes
B: and by flaling into satans hands, you mean allowing gays & lesbians to marry
T: yes
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Much more damning testimony from Tam at the link. I hope he keeps talking. He’s pure gold for our side.