The Gaytheist Agenda

Of course it was already known that Thomas Beatie was going to have a girl, but announcing it is always fun. Thomas and Nancy’s baby was born at a hospital in Bend, OR, on Sunday.

The birth at Bend, Oregon, was natural, according to a source, who discounted earlier reports that Mr Beatie planned to have a Caesarean section.

“She’s really cute, really pretty,” the source told ABC News.

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Mr Beatie sparked an international furore in March after he announced he was pregnant. “I feel it’s not a male or female desire to have a child,” he later told Oprah Winfrey on US televsion.

“It’s a human need. I’m a person and I have the right to have a biological child.”
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Many congratulations to the happy family!

 

A few weeks back I brought you the story of Thomas Beatie, a transgender man who is pregnant and carrying the child that his wife cannot. I’d been scoping RW sources expecting to see some sort of murmuring about the situation and was rather perplexed that I’d not found anything significant. I was particularly surprised that the usual suspects, the RRRW sources who make it their duty to fret over anything LGBTs do that is remotely connected with children or family building, were dead silent on the matter. But since Beatie was on Oprah yesterday there has been a secondary surge of chatter about him on the WWW, and finally some of the more antagonistic RW sites are talking about his story. One of the more repugnant sites, NewsBusters, chimed in and here is some of what they had to say:

 

On Friday’s “Good Morning America,” for the second day in a row, and the third time in a little over a week, the ABC program promoted the story of a transgendered man who is having a baby via artificial insemination. At no time did GMA feature any guest to challenge or question the psychological ramifications for a child who was born from a pregnant “father.”

During the April 4 segment on the subject, GMA guest news anchor David Muir described Thomas Beatie’s decision as “very controversial.” One would assume that a controversial decision would have two sides to it. But over the course of three segments, totaling ten minutes and 16 seconds, the closest the network program got was on April 3, when psychologist Jeffrey Gardere mildly advised, “It really is incumbent upon this individual, his wife, to try to give this as much dignity as possible, to not make it a joke, to not make it that something that’s cheap [sic].”

 
I was unaware that programs like Good Morning America were obligated to provide two sides to every story. Fox “News”, which claims to be Fair and Balanced, for example, only presents the Right Wing version of what they report. Interesting how the RW only cares about “balance” when they feel they’re not getting heard. If the opposite side is left out in the cold it’s just too bad.

 

On Friday’s program, reporter Andrea Canning played a clip from Beatie’s appearance on Oprah Winfrey’s daytime program and then approvingly described him as “the man the world has been waiting to meet.” While discussing the issue on March 26, co-host Chris Cuomo tentatively asked an obstetrician, who approved of the pregnancy, if there were any psychological implications for the child. After being told that only love was necessary, Cuomo quickly concurred and added, “It’s a good point to make, doctor. Oddity aside, biology aside, it is all about love of this child and as long as that’s present, everything else is really going to be normal.”

Finally, as the Culture and Media Institute’s Kristen Fyfe pointed out in an April 3 posting on the subject, GMA and other shows insist on referring to Beatie as a pregnant man. Of course, this ignores the fact that men simply do not give birth.

The child is going to have a father and a mother. Isn’t that what the RW hand-wringers keep insisting she simply must have to be psychologically healthy? I don’t see what all the fuss is about. And men can give birth if they are transgender men who have kept their female reproductive organs. Thomas Beatie is hard evidence of this.

Now let’s move on to some of the comments posted to the article, which are even more crude than the article itself. Brace yourself.

 

Sheesh!

This guy/gal is a freak! Why isn’t he/she portrayed as a freak!

This isn’t normal no matter how loving ABC wants to pretend it is.

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This whole sordid situation is clearly about one thing, $$$$$$$$$.

This strange (really STRANGE) couple doesn’t seem to care about the mental trauma they are inflicting on this child. Chances are good this kid will grow up with so many mental problems that could easily lead to suicide or mass murder, etc. Their supposed human desire to bear children is so much BS. Follow this case for the next 20 years and I’m sure you’ll see nothing but despair for this child.

Meanwhile these two losers will be reaping the ignobility they deserve, but hey, they’ll have lots of bucks to cover their shame.

Interesting how certain people, typically RW Christians, consider themselves the arbiters of “normal”, and worry about the trauma inflicted on the children of LGBT parents. What’s sadly ironic is how many of them have graced the pages of Conservative Babylon for heinous crimes against children and other things that would not be considered “normal” by any stretch of the imagination.

If this person still has a uertus …in my book that consitutes a …….FEMALE.

What is the deal …..it changed it’s name….is now legaly a man, so it’s gets pregnent and now is legealy a pregnent man.

it still has female parts that make it possible to have a baby…..so it still is a female even if it is SO menta;ly challanged that is thinks is a man.

I was a professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist

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First of all, This person is a Female. That’s how it works MSM. And you can say “Man is Pregnant” all day long, and twice on Sunday, but a Virgin Birth by a Man it is not.

It’s a Pregnant Woman - - Woman by Birth — and she may shave and had her Breast removed, but Woman by Birth cannot be Reported as “Man is Pregnant”.

The Public isn’t that Stupid. Evidently the MSM thinks we’re dumber than dirt.

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This is NOT a pregnant man!

This, is a pregnant WOMAN who thinks she is a man.

Holy crap! Give us all a break from these freeks.

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In other words, there is no such thing as a Christian. You guys are all just Atheists who think you’re Christians. After all, you were born Atheists, and if you were born that way no matter how much you think you’re Christians and proclaim yourself Christians, that doesn’t make you Christians. Dunking yourself in some water, wearing a cross around your neck and reading a book doesn’t change the basic fact that you were born an Atheist and will die an Atheist.

 

I feel for Thomas Beatie, I really do. He, his wife and his child will have an uphill battle all the way–not because of anything they’ve done but because of the hateful bigotries of others. There are far too many people who believe they have the right to decide what is right and wrong for everybody, and to make life a living hell for those who don’t comply with their narrow schema. That is very sad indeed.

It’s all in the poop. Petrified poop, that is.

New evidence shows humans lived in North America more than 14,000 years ago, 1,000 years earlier than had previously been known. Discovered in a cave in Oregon, fossil feces yielded DNA indicating these early residents were related to people living in Siberia and East Asia, according to a report in Thursday’s online edition of the journal Science.

“This is the first time we have been able to get dates that are undeniably human, and they are 1,000 years before Clovis,” said Dennis L. Jenkins , a University of Oregon archaeologist, referring to the Clovis culture, well known for its unique spear-points that have been studied previously.

Humans are widely believed to have arrived in North America from Asia over a land-bridge between Alaska and Siberia during a warmer period. A variety of dates has been proposed and some are in dispute.

Few artifacts were found in the cave, leading Jenkins to speculate that these people stayed there only a few days at a time before moving on, perhaps following game animals or looking for other food.

The petrified poop — coprolites to scientists — is yielding a look at the diet of these ancient Americans, Jenkins said.

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The date for the new coprolites is similar to that of Monte Verde in southern Chile, where human artifacts have been discovered, added Willerslev.

Jenkins said it isn’t clear exactly who these people living in the Oregon caves were, since there were few artifacts found. He said there was one stone tool , a hand tool used perhaps to polish or grind or mash bones or fat.

“We are not saying that these people were of a particular ethnic group. At this point, we know they most likely came from Siberia or Eastern Asia, and we know something about what they were eating, which is something we can learn from coprolites. We’re talking about human signature,” he said.

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Jenkins said that discoveries like those in the Oregon caves “help us to reconstruct the American past.”

“Our heritage is really important and it is important to the majority of the American public. If you don’t know where you come from, it’s hard to have a feeling of community, of participation.”

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This is very exciting news indeed for a paleoanthropology and archeology buff like me. I’m simply fascinated with learning about our ancient ancestors, particularly Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons. I must say, Jean M. Auel is to blame (so never let it be said that fiction is useless).

Thomas Beatie transitioned from female to male nearly a decade ago, but he didn’t have his reproductive organs removed. So when it was discovered that his wife Nancy was unable to have children, Thomas decided that he would do so. But while the experience has brought the couple closer together, it has presented many unique challenges for them.

Our situation sparks legal, political, and social unknowns. We have only begun experiencing opposition from people who are upset by our situation. Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. Health care professionals have refused to call me by a male pronoun or recognize Nancy as my wife. Receptionists have laughed at us. Friends and family have been unsupportive; most of Nancy’s family doesn’t even know I’m transgender.

This whole process, from trying to get pregnant to being pregnant, has been a challenge for us. The first doctor we approached was a reproductive endocrinologist. He was shocked by our situation and told me to shave my facial hair. After a $300 consultation, he reluctantly performed my initial checkups. He then required us to see the clinic’s psychologist to see if we were fit to bring a child into this world and consulted with the ethics board of his hospital. A few months and a couple thousand dollars later, he told us that he would no longer treat us, saying he and his staff felt uncomfortable working with “someone like me.”

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When I finally got pregnant for the first time, I ended up having an ectopic pregnancy with triplets. It was a life-threatening event that required surgical intervention, resulting in the loss of all embryos and my right fallopian tube. When my brother found out about my loss, he said, “It’s a good thing that happened. Who knows what kind of monster it would have been.”

“Someone like me”…”Who knows what kind of monster it would have been”. While I’m used to the bigotry of others I’m still taken aback at how hateful their words can be. Sadly some of them likely think they’re just good people espousing their “deeply held religious beliefs” and that they’re doing nothing wrong.

On successfully getting pregnant a second time, we are proud to announce that this pregnancy is free of complications and our baby girl has a clean bill of health. We are happily awaiting her birth, with an estimated due date of July 3, 2008.

How does it feel to be a pregnant man? Incredible. Despite the fact that my belly is growing with a new life inside me, I am stable and confident being the man that I am. In a technical sense I see myself as my own surrogate, though my gender identity as male is constant. To Nancy, I am her husband carrying our child — I am so lucky to have such a loving, supportive wife. I will be my daughter’s father, and Nancy will be her mother. We will be a family.

Outside the local medical community, people don’t know I’m five months’ pregnant. But our situation ultimately will ask everyone to embrace the gamut of human possibility and to define for themselves what is normal.

Of course the RRRW will be screeching about the notion of “redefining normal”. But from the first time that anybody adopted a child, blended families via re-marriage, utilized IVP or otherwise engaged in any form of “family building” other than plain old sex they were “redefining normal”. It’s only when people different from themselves try to build a family that the RRRW begins to have the vapors and wrings their hands about what is or is not “normal” in their very narrow viewpoint.

I think what Thomas Beatie is doing is wonderful and groundbreaking. I wish them and their daughter-to-be all the best.

Republican homophobes have been crawling out of the woodwork lately. First there was Sally Kern, then Mary Frances Forrester. Now make way for Oregon State Senator Gary George

In his first media interview since coming forward as co-sponsor of the initiative to repeal the recently enacted Oregon Equality Act – an anti-discrimination law for sexual minorities – George railed against gay activists and affirmative action, and warned that if gays continued to be “oppressive toward straights,” they were in danger of “violent backlash.”

The full interview will appear in the March 21 issue of Just Out, but excerpts are included below.

Just Out: Why are you sponsoring this repeal initiative?

State senator Gary George: I’ve had people approach me for special rights for homosexuals and I don’t believe anyone should have special rights. I’ve had members of the gay community come in and ask and I’ll say I’m sorry I don’t give anyone special rights.

That’s just what people like Senator George don’t get. They aren’t special rights, they’re equal rights.

Just Out: What sort of special rights do you feel that the Oregon Equality Act offers?

George: First off, I thought that was a fabrication of definition, in the sense that you gave special rights, it picks out another group, a lifestyle group, and says hmm, you have all these protections. The main thing that bothered us with the whole bill was the fact that here we go again, adding one more class of people that need to have special rights.

Just Out: Can you give an example?

George: If I discriminate in favor of you it automatically requires I discriminate against someone else. I was hoping with your generation we can stop calling each other ‘asian-american,’ or ‘latino-american…’ There’s one talk show host, and he has really severe hard feelings against affirmative action. Because of the race that he is, I believe he’s Italian, he was discriminated against because he’s not black. I have dear dear friends in the legislature who are black but sometimes I really get tired of hearing about their color.

So Senator George outs himself as a racist in addition to a homophobe. He seems to have so many issues withe the labels other people have and apply to themselves, and considers the rights they get/want to be “special”. I wonder why he doesn’t think the same of his labels and rights. I’ll assume he’s Christian, for example, and he’s certainly not going to be giving up his right to protection from discrimination based on his religion. Nor would he give up his right to protection from race based hate crimes (yes, white people are protected too). Nor would he dream of forfeiting his right to prosecute if he were the victim of gender related bias. Yet he wishes to keep others from having the same (read: equal) rights he has.

Just Out: What if an employee is fired because of his/her sexual orientation or gender identity? Isn’t the Oregon Equality Act in place to guard against such discrimination?

George: As an employer, I don’t wanna hear about it. This workplace is for work purposes. My advice to the gay community is SHUT UP, just don’t talk about it. If you walk around talking about what you do in the bedroom, you should be on the pervert channel.

Senator George, when your straight employees come in and talk about the dates they had over the weekend do you tell them to SHUT UP? When they talk about their upcoming weddings do you tell them to SHUT UP? When they start passing around pictures of their children, which are nothing more than evidence of their unprotected sex, do you scream “SHUT UP–I DON’T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU DO IN THE BEDROOM!!!” ? If not, then you are nothing but a homophobe, Senator George.

Just Out: What is your reaction to the recent murders of out gay youth in Florida and California?

George: Obviously murder is murder, there’s no excuse for that. Here’s what I’m saying, I think we’re seeing a backlash, in other words if you push me too hard don’t be surprised if I react. Gays will tend to react violently if people are oppressive toward them. If gays are oppressive toward straights, then you’ll see a violent backlash. You’re going to have a point where these groups develop and say I’m tired of these special privileges.

Just Out: Are you suggesting that gays, by virtue of being out and open, are inciting these types of violent reactions?

George: You have to recognize for every action there’s a reaction…we’re obviously not gonna tolerate anyone who beats up any other person.

If you do feel like you’ve been discriminated against as a gay, you have hard feelings. I remember when I was heavy and wore glasses as a child and I was picked on. We all know the gay person that nobody notices – I think that is where we need to head. Everybody knows where the line is, so when I see I’m offending someone, I have to back away from that. We have to adjust our behavior so as to not be offensive. If you push anyone too hard, they will react.

Translation: Get back in your closets you homos, and then you won’t get beaten up and killed so much. And anyway getting brutally murdered is really not much worse than getting picked on for wearing glasses.

I honestly feel ill after reading Senator George’s interview (and that was the abridged version). The hateful screeds of Sally Kern and Mary Frances Forrester were far enough off the deep end that most people will see them for what they were–the incredibly bigoted tirades of homophobes. But this man is deadly calm and rational in his hatred, and that is what makes him more frightening and dangerous than the other two. The thought that he could influence minds in his state is quite unnerving.

By the way, should anybody wish to contact the Senator, here is his information:

Address:

Senator Gary George
900 Court St. NE, S-214
Salem, OR 97301

Phone:
503-986-1712

Email:
sen.garygeorge@state.or.us